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		<title>By: intellectual property lawyers</title>
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		<dc:creator>intellectual property lawyers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 04:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are quite true at this point that the legal changes will be surely made but this won&#039;t have any effect on the public behavior. Until and unless there are no changes to public behavior there is no use of making legal changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are quite true at this point that the legal changes will be surely made but this won&#39;t have any effect on the public behavior. Until and unless there are no changes to public behavior there is no use of making legal changes.</p>
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		<title>By: Saccha</title>
		<link>http://www.runwiththelaw.com/2009/06/the-rhetoric-of-copyright-piracy/comment-page-1/#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>Saccha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very informative article. I love learning about your insights on these issues.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You might also be interested to read about an article I have recently read concerning the music industry. Larrikin Music sued EMI Songs Australia due to copyright infringement. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aitken.com.au/news-blog/blog/archive/201007/kookaburra-gets-5-down-under&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Check out the original article here&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very informative article. I love learning about your insights on these issues.</p>
<p>You might also be interested to read about an article I have recently read concerning the music industry. Larrikin Music sued EMI Songs Australia due to copyright infringement. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.aitken.com.au/news-blog/blog/archive/201007/kookaburra-gets-5-down-under"  rel="nofollow">Check out the original article here</a></p>
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		<title>By: Speeding Fines</title>
		<link>http://www.runwiththelaw.com/2009/06/the-rhetoric-of-copyright-piracy/comment-page-1/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>Speeding Fines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the really interesting article. There is a lot of really useful and relevant information and you raise some interesting disussion points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the really interesting article. There is a lot of really useful and relevant information and you raise some interesting disussion points.</p>
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		<title>By: Speeding Fines</title>
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		<dc:creator>Speeding Fines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 06:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the really interesting article. There is a lot of really useful and relevant information and you raise some interesting disussion points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the really interesting article. There is a lot of really useful and relevant information and you raise some interesting disussion points.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.runwiththelaw.com/2009/06/the-rhetoric-of-copyright-piracy/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My trust for ASCAP is not running especially high at the moment, with their remarks that the use of unlicensed ringtones on cellphones is &quot;worse than Napster&quot;, that customers and AT&amp;T are &quot;jointly and severally liable&quot;, and that &quot;it need only be &quot;capable&quot; of being performed to the public; whether the ringtone is set to play, and indeed whether anyone hears it, is of no moment&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It does, however, give an excellent opportunity to viciously needle every iphone user in my acquaintance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My trust for ASCAP is not running especially high at the moment, with their remarks that the use of unlicensed ringtones on cellphones is &#8220;worse than Napster&#8221;, that customers and AT&#038;T are &#8220;jointly and severally liable&#8221;, and that &#8220;it need only be &#8220;capable&#8221; of being performed to the public; whether the ringtone is set to play, and indeed whether anyone hears it, is of no moment&#8221;.</p>
<p>It does, however, give an excellent opportunity to viciously needle every iphone user in my acquaintance.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you mean &lt;a href=http://www.copyrightalliance.org/content.php?id=11 rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;?  I agree in principle with the &quot;is fair use a right&quot; section as regards fair use itself, but see his approach as attempting to delegitimize the rights of blind users, unsupported users, security researchers and modders to use the content they have paid for.  If you modify your bike lock so it will work with a car, that&#039;s ok; if you modify your DVD so it will work with another computer, it&#039;s a DMCA violation which gives you no protection under fair use.  The status quo in this regard has been the use of several separate laws and principles to reach a balance completely unacceptable to the public as a whole.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;While I understand that respecting consumers&#039; rights may seem to make fighting piracy more difficult, this is an illusion.  Restrictions on the use of DVD and Blu-Ray have merely made legal content less appealing as opposed to the more useful &quot;unlocked&quot; pirated content.  I have no easy answers for you regarding the prosperity of those who choose to dedicate their lives to selling art of various kinds; I wish them the best, but the industry is in great turmoil and will continue to be.  There is no way to turn the clock back now, but I believe that in the long run these disrupting technologies will be beneficial for most artists.  Revenue may be lower when working on your own, but not having your work used to sue single mothers for millions of dollars by the corporation that really owns it is invaluable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you mean <a href=http://www.copyrightalliance.org/content.php?id=11 rel="nofollow">this</a>?  I agree in principle with the &#8220;is fair use a right&#8221; section as regards fair use itself, but see his approach as attempting to delegitimize the rights of blind users, unsupported users, security researchers and modders to use the content they have paid for.  If you modify your bike lock so it will work with a car, that&#39;s ok; if you modify your DVD so it will work with another computer, it&#39;s a DMCA violation which gives you no protection under fair use.  The status quo in this regard has been the use of several separate laws and principles to reach a balance completely unacceptable to the public as a whole.  </p>
<p>While I understand that respecting consumers&#39; rights may seem to make fighting piracy more difficult, this is an illusion.  Restrictions on the use of DVD and Blu-Ray have merely made legal content less appealing as opposed to the more useful &#8220;unlocked&#8221; pirated content.  I have no easy answers for you regarding the prosperity of those who choose to dedicate their lives to selling art of various kinds; I wish them the best, but the industry is in great turmoil and will continue to be.  There is no way to turn the clock back now, but I believe that in the long run these disrupting technologies will be beneficial for most artists.  Revenue may be lower when working on your own, but not having your work used to sue single mothers for millions of dollars by the corporation that really owns it is invaluable.</p>
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		<title>By: GregSJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>GregSJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leigh,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for joining the discussion! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree that education is important, but I don&#039;t think it will be as successful as your website seems to indicate you believe it will be.  The RIAA has been trying to educate the public about copyright laws since at least 2006.  Based on the RIAA&#039;s numbers piracy has increased rather than decreased during that time.  Personally I believe that education is not a perfect answer for two reasons: First education is not 100 percent affective.  To get a driver&#039;s license in the U.S. high school students must take driver&#039;s education classes.  Despite the fact that these classes emphasize the importance of not speeding, thousands (if not millions) of speeding tickets are issued in the U.S. every year.  Second, Copyright law is extremely complicated.  For example Microsoft, Yahoo, and Real were just sued two days ago for failing to acquire all of the proper licenses to stream music.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thus I believe that music piracy will forever be a part of the music industry.  However this does not mean that the music industry cannot be successful.  With both education and a rhetoric change I believe that piracy will be mostly committed by people unwilling/unable to pay for music.  Thus this piracy will result in minimal lost sales (if they weren&#039;t pirating they still wouldn&#039;t be paying).  Given this scenario music need not necessarily add value to sell.  However music has been free to consumers for a long time.  While advertisers paid radio stations licenses, consumers were under no obligation to purchases advertisers products.  A number of companies are trying to transition this model to the internet (e.g. a company I work for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.trueanthem.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.trueanthem.com&lt;/a&gt;).  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are a number of exciting and interesting models to sell music being tested right now.  One of the things they tend to have in common is an appeal to consumers to legally buy music (or legally purchase for free) instead of downloading illegally.  I suggest you look into some of them for releasing your upcoming album.  I hope you find one that fits you.  Music is meant to be shared, and I doubt the government will or could affect the sort of changes in copyright law that your website suggests you are waiting for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leigh,</p>
<p>Thanks for joining the discussion! </p>
<p>I agree that education is important, but I don&#39;t think it will be as successful as your website seems to indicate you believe it will be.  The RIAA has been trying to educate the public about copyright laws since at least 2006.  Based on the RIAA&#39;s numbers piracy has increased rather than decreased during that time.  Personally I believe that education is not a perfect answer for two reasons: First education is not 100 percent affective.  To get a driver&#39;s license in the U.S. high school students must take driver&#39;s education classes.  Despite the fact that these classes emphasize the importance of not speeding, thousands (if not millions) of speeding tickets are issued in the U.S. every year.  Second, Copyright law is extremely complicated.  For example Microsoft, Yahoo, and Real were just sued two days ago for failing to acquire all of the proper licenses to stream music.</p>
<p>Thus I believe that music piracy will forever be a part of the music industry.  However this does not mean that the music industry cannot be successful.  With both education and a rhetoric change I believe that piracy will be mostly committed by people unwilling/unable to pay for music.  Thus this piracy will result in minimal lost sales (if they weren&#39;t pirating they still wouldn&#39;t be paying).  Given this scenario music need not necessarily add value to sell.  However music has been free to consumers for a long time.  While advertisers paid radio stations licenses, consumers were under no obligation to purchases advertisers products.  A number of companies are trying to transition this model to the internet (e.g. a company I work for <a href="http://www.trueanthem.com"  rel="nofollow">http://www.trueanthem.com</a>).  </p>
<p>There are a number of exciting and interesting models to sell music being tested right now.  One of the things they tend to have in common is an appeal to consumers to legally buy music (or legally purchase for free) instead of downloading illegally.  I suggest you look into some of them for releasing your upcoming album.  I hope you find one that fits you.  Music is meant to be shared, and I doubt the government will or could affect the sort of changes in copyright law that your website suggests you are waiting for.</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leigh Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d also like to respond to Bill, whose comments about &quot;fair use&quot; troubled me.  I would like to suggest that, to get a fuller understanding of the issue, he read the 10 Questions about Fair Use which are listed (and answered) on the highly informative website, &lt;a href=&quot;http://wwwcopyrightalliance.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wwwcopyrightalliance.org&lt;/a&gt;, on the page that has Fair Use FAQ&#039;s.  In fact, the answers there are useful for all of us, especially if we&#039;re responding to all the other people who also use &quot;fair use&quot; as a way to prevent artists from receiving payment for their work.  After all, more than 11 million of us work in some way with our intellectual property, or in fields where someone&#039;s intellectual property (a film script, a song, a play) is giving them employment.  Merely because some people in these fields are well off, making millions of dollars, doesn&#039;t mean that the remaining 10.9 million of us should be penniless solely because some people are outraged that there are a few wealthy artists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;d also like to respond to Bill, whose comments about &#8220;fair use&#8221; troubled me.  I would like to suggest that, to get a fuller understanding of the issue, he read the 10 Questions about Fair Use which are listed (and answered) on the highly informative website, <a href="http://wwwcopyrightalliance.org"  rel="nofollow">wwwcopyrightalliance.org</a>, on the page that has Fair Use FAQ&#39;s.  In fact, the answers there are useful for all of us, especially if we&#39;re responding to all the other people who also use &#8220;fair use&#8221; as a way to prevent artists from receiving payment for their work.  After all, more than 11 million of us work in some way with our intellectual property, or in fields where someone&#39;s intellectual property (a film script, a song, a play) is giving them employment.  Merely because some people in these fields are well off, making millions of dollars, doesn&#39;t mean that the remaining 10.9 million of us should be penniless solely because some people are outraged that there are a few wealthy artists.</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leigh Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that changes in rhetoric may help.  It may also interest you to know, though, that recently, an effort has begun by teachers and musicians working together to create a curriculum (complete, one hopes, with articles, textbooks, video) specially prepared to teach a new generation why they need to respect intellectual property and not to infringe on copyright.  &lt;br&gt;Certainly, the present generation is confused and misled in thinking that everything is -- or should be -- free just because it suits them, regardless of an artist&#039;s right to earn a reasonable living.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Furthermore, people accustomed to getting everything for free do not necessarily need to have &quot;added value&quot; -- they need to understand that IT NEVER WAS FREE.  They paid for the &quot;free&#039; music on the radio by buying the sponsors&#039; sproducts (not free!) and that nothing the public beieves to be &quot;free&quot; really is, in the long run. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fortunately, a number of people are working to change things.  At the close of my Open Letter on my website &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.leighharrison.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.leighharrison.com&lt;/a&gt; (on the page &quot;Upcoming CD&quot;) I add information at the bottom of my Letter about some of the ways things are changing.  I will be adding a link to this site as soon as possible, and I also suggest that those who are concerned about this contact The Bats (releasethebats) in the UK, which is a group very concerned with this issue as well, in addition to ASCAP and The Copyright Alliance, who are all working strenuously to change things for the better for all of us who live by our music or art.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Leigh Harrison</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that changes in rhetoric may help.  It may also interest you to know, though, that recently, an effort has begun by teachers and musicians working together to create a curriculum (complete, one hopes, with articles, textbooks, video) specially prepared to teach a new generation why they need to respect intellectual property and not to infringe on copyright.  <br />Certainly, the present generation is confused and misled in thinking that everything is &#8212; or should be &#8212; free just because it suits them, regardless of an artist&#39;s right to earn a reasonable living.</p>
<p>Furthermore, people accustomed to getting everything for free do not necessarily need to have &#8220;added value&#8221; &#8212; they need to understand that IT NEVER WAS FREE.  They paid for the &#8220;free&#39; music on the radio by buying the sponsors&#39; sproducts (not free!) and that nothing the public beieves to be &#8220;free&#8221; really is, in the long run. </p>
<p>Fortunately, a number of people are working to change things.  At the close of my Open Letter on my website <a href="http://www.leighharrison.com"  rel="nofollow">http://www.leighharrison.com</a> (on the page &#8220;Upcoming CD&#8221;) I add information at the bottom of my Letter about some of the ways things are changing.  I will be adding a link to this site as soon as possible, and I also suggest that those who are concerned about this contact The Bats (releasethebats) in the UK, which is a group very concerned with this issue as well, in addition to ASCAP and The Copyright Alliance, who are all working strenuously to change things for the better for all of us who live by our music or art.</p>
<p>Leigh Harrison</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly, I would like to thank you for your polite and reasoned response to an overly aggressive comment.    &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I found the article you linked to quite interesting.  It outlines the necessary paths by which the RIAA could regain control over lawbreaking, but I see it as implicitly acknowledging that the RIAA will not and cannot succeed.  The very strategies it details are good for copyright law, good for the public, and good for artists - but they would destroy the firms manipulating copyright law to their own advantage.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think that many recording industry folks think they can sneak out of this by upping the ante just a little bit with sweet talk and a slightly nicer deal for consumers.  However, the proverbial blood has been spilled and the sharks can smell it.  Sure, a good story and added value would be enough IF the guys who made music got all (or most) of the money.  We know they won&#039;t, because it would falls into conflict with a business model which relies on Warner/Universal/BMG/EMI taking ninety percent of the revenue for themselves.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t think that the current industry has the will or the capability to succeed in today&#039;s economy.  Today&#039;s labels are burdened by heavy expenses which require massive revenue just to stay in the black, let alone turn a profit.  I do not see how they can survive without drastically cutting general business costs and slashing any expenditures on distribution, marketing, etc. until they can get music out to the public with the same overhead as the Pirate Bay has.  In other words, any labels which thrive in this environment will look absolutely nothing like what we expect from a recording company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, I would like to thank you for your polite and reasoned response to an overly aggressive comment.    </p>
<p>I found the article you linked to quite interesting.  It outlines the necessary paths by which the RIAA could regain control over lawbreaking, but I see it as implicitly acknowledging that the RIAA will not and cannot succeed.  The very strategies it details are good for copyright law, good for the public, and good for artists &#8211; but they would destroy the firms manipulating copyright law to their own advantage.  </p>
<p>I think that many recording industry folks think they can sneak out of this by upping the ante just a little bit with sweet talk and a slightly nicer deal for consumers.  However, the proverbial blood has been spilled and the sharks can smell it.  Sure, a good story and added value would be enough IF the guys who made music got all (or most) of the money.  We know they won&#39;t, because it would falls into conflict with a business model which relies on Warner/Universal/BMG/EMI taking ninety percent of the revenue for themselves.  </p>
<p>I don&#39;t think that the current industry has the will or the capability to succeed in today&#39;s economy.  Today&#39;s labels are burdened by heavy expenses which require massive revenue just to stay in the black, let alone turn a profit.  I do not see how they can survive without drastically cutting general business costs and slashing any expenditures on distribution, marketing, etc. until they can get music out to the public with the same overhead as the Pirate Bay has.  In other words, any labels which thrive in this environment will look absolutely nothing like what we expect from a recording company.</p>
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